Got to be Wrath of Kahn, brilliant film. I'd then have 6 and the the motion picture pretty close. 6 has a great whodunnit type plot and I like the proper sf ness of the motion picture. 4 is quite a laugh too. The others with the original crew are a bit meh and I think whilst first contact is good the next gen films never really felt like big scale films more like glorified episodes. Another thing about the ng ones is that they never quite lived up to the best eps in the series and the last 2 films are just terrible.
The Slow Motion Picture without a doubt - it has the most craft and artistry to it, and was the one that has the most profound feeling of awe when you see it for the first time or in the cinema.
Some of the others are more fun, or have a better plot, or better action, but ST:TMP is the one I come back to most often.
I voted for Wrath of Khan too - and interesting to see it got more votes than the others (so far). For me it was the best and a great improvement on the first movie - even though the motion picture looked great (the fabulous new Enterprise etc) the story was really rather dull and the whole thing was too slow-paced. "Khan" was like original Trek but with a bigger budget, great visuals, action and a cracking plot line. Plus the "death" of Spock at the end (kind of loses its weight in the light of the following films, but at the time it was tragic!)
But 4 and 1 have exactly the same plot -- gigantic probe comes back to Earth and threatens to destroy it unless it hears the correct code.
4 was less interesting because once it got the code, whale song, it just buggered off an nobody bothered pursuing to see where it went or even mention it again.
I could never understand the comments that Star Trek 2:Wrath of Khan was more like what Star Trek used to be like, I always thought it was Star Trek:The Motion Picture that captured the feel of the original show more, especially since most of the plot was copied from older episodes such as The Changeling. There was only ever a vague hint of ship battles in the original series, mainly because they couldn't afford the FX. Yeah Fraser that pissed me off with Star Trek 4 also, the planet is nearly destroyed and once this thing flies off everyone cheers but nobody says 'what the fuck was that' ? I know a paperback called 'Probe' follows here's the plot off the back of that book that I found online. In the aftermath of the visit of the mysterious probe to Earth in 2286, Starfleet is wondering what this strange visitor really was about, and who sent it. At the same time, a major political upheaval on Romulus has deposed a ruling party that has ruled for decades, and the new leadership is interested in more diplomatic relations with the Federation. With the probe headed towards Romulan space, it is a chance for the two powers to work together to understand who sent the probe, and why.
Eventually, the crew of the USS Enterprise, working with Romulan counterparts, tracks down the probe, and learns more about its background and history. Spock successfully mind melds with the probe, learning that it did not seek to be destructive to other races, instead they were so different from its creators that they were ignored as "mites" in "metal bubbles", and teaches the probe to be more aware of what it is doing to humanoid life in the galaxy as it travels, leaving the probe to continue to explore the galaxy and the detente seeking Romulans with some of the first peaceful interaction they have ever had with the Federation.
You know, I had so much fun watching Checkov say 'newclear wessles' I didn't think about the probe. I get on at other people for being that lame. Bad me.
I just assumed that the probe went back inside it's can of Mr Dog and went on the shelves at Morrisons.
I voted for "Kahn", too, as Ricardo is simply a terrific villain. His dialogue, at his moment of death, is pure poetry and on a par with that of Rutger's "Shoulder of Orion" speech in "Blade Runner".
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Got to be Wrath of Kahn, brilliant film.
I'd then have 6 and the the motion picture pretty close. 6 has a great whodunnit type plot and I like the proper sf ness of the motion picture. 4 is quite a laugh too.
The others with the original crew are a bit meh and I think whilst first contact is good the next gen films never really felt like big scale films more like glorified episodes. Another thing about the ng ones is that they never quite lived up to the best eps in the series and the last 2 films are just terrible.
The Slow Motion Picture without a doubt - it has the most craft and artistry to it, and was the one that has the most profound feeling of awe when you see it for the first time or in the cinema.
Some of the others are more fun, or have a better plot, or better action, but ST:TMP is the one I come back to most often.
I voted for Wrath of Khan too - and interesting to see it got more votes than the others (so far). For me it was the best and a great improvement on the first movie - even though the motion picture looked great (the fabulous new Enterprise etc) the story was really rather dull and the whole thing was too slow-paced. "Khan" was like original Trek but with a bigger budget, great visuals, action and a cracking plot line. Plus the "death" of Spock at the end (kind of loses its weight in the light of the following films, but at the time it was tragic!)
2 and 6, yup. I like 4 too as it's a fun romp.
The motion picture is just huge, hated the outfits and the dullness of it though. Even though it looks amazing.
But 4 and 1 have exactly the same plot -- gigantic probe comes back to Earth and threatens to destroy it unless it hears the correct code.
4 was less interesting because once it got the code, whale song, it just buggered off an nobody bothered pursuing to see where it went or even mention it again.
I could never understand the comments that Star Trek 2:Wrath of Khan was more like what Star Trek used to be like, I always thought it was Star Trek:The Motion Picture that captured the feel of the original show more, especially since most of the plot was copied from older episodes such as The Changeling. There was only ever a vague hint of ship battles in the original series, mainly because they couldn't afford the FX.
Yeah Fraser that pissed me off with Star Trek 4 also, the planet is nearly destroyed and once this thing flies off everyone cheers but nobody says 'what the fuck was that' ? I know a paperback called 'Probe' follows here's the plot off the back of that book that I found online.
In the aftermath of the visit of the mysterious probe to Earth in 2286, Starfleet is wondering what this strange visitor really was about, and who sent it. At the same time, a major political upheaval on Romulus has deposed a ruling party that has ruled for decades, and the new leadership is interested in more diplomatic relations with the Federation. With the probe headed towards Romulan space, it is a chance for the two powers to work together to understand who sent the probe, and why.
Eventually, the crew of the USS Enterprise, working with Romulan counterparts, tracks down the probe, and learns more about its background and history. Spock successfully mind melds with the probe, learning that it did not seek to be destructive to other races, instead they were so different from its creators that they were ignored as "mites" in "metal bubbles", and teaches the probe to be more aware of what it is doing to humanoid life in the galaxy as it travels, leaving the probe to continue to explore the galaxy and the detente seeking Romulans with some of the first peaceful interaction they have ever had with the Federation.
Arrrrgh! It's the worst kind of retconning - why oh why can't they just think of something new!?!
- Disgusted of Tatooine
You know, I had so much fun watching Checkov say 'newclear wessles' I didn't think about the probe. I get on at other people for being that lame. Bad me.
I just assumed that the probe went back inside it's can of Mr Dog and went on the shelves at Morrisons.
"I just assumed that the probe went back inside it's can of Mr Dog and went on the shelves at Morrisons."
That's the funniest thing I've read all week and I'll never be able to watch IV without thinking of it.
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I voted for "Kahn", too, as Ricardo is simply a terrific villain. His dialogue, at his moment of death, is pure poetry and on a par with that of Rutger's "Shoulder of Orion" speech in "Blade Runner".
I voted for ST:TMP it's easily my favourite.
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